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Odin + WASM - Building A Video Game

Spiro Floropoulos

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shreyassanthu Asmr let's gooooo

shreyassanthu clip it bois

shreyassanthu Can you explain a little about what this is ?

shreyassanthu nice

shreyassanthu What was the first tab you opened

shreyassanthu So those are different files???

JoDim___ spirod1Hi spirod1Hi spirod1Hi

shreyassanthu like jupyter notebooks??

shreyassanthu This is a wonderful usecase for go actually

shreyassanthu this is actually pretty cool

shreyassanthu Go is built for things like this

shreyassanthu Network and processes

shreyassanthu why ship a browser when you can ship native code

PureAmbrosia Welcome back?

shreyassanthu one problem with zig and Odin is it's a bit tricky to do all the memory management

shreyassanthu but go has just the right amount of abstraction

shreyassanthu go still has pointers and gives you control if you want but you are not forced to

shreyassanthu and go fiber is the fastest web server

shreyassanthu Even faster than zig or rust

shreyassanthu It's absurdly fast

shreyassanthu oh yeah go will definitely destroy bun in any real world scenario

shreyassanthu bun by default uses 40 megs of memory

shreyassanthu go uses like 5

shreyassanthu not v8, jsc but yeah

shreyassanthu It absolutely can

shreyassanthu It is the best language for cross compilation

shreyassanthu after zig ofcourse

shreyassanthu if zig is a 100 go is 95

shreyassanthu it actually has real potential imo

shreyassanthu no this thing you're building

shreyassanthu throw in tree sitter for syntax highlighting and it's just fantastic

shreyassanthu no

shreyassanthu Tree sitter is written in c and is craaazy fast

shreyassanthu all of these libs use js parsing and is slow af

shreyassanthu Tree sitter can run anywhere c can run so that's everywhere

shreyassanthu even wasm

shreyassanthu They use it in their playground

shreyassanthu It is a little more complicated than using an off the shelf lib

shreyassanthu tree sitter is sooo fking fast

shreyassanthu it is a single pass lr1 parser... you don't have to know what that means but it just means faaast

shreyassanthu Yeah this is good

shreyassanthu Tree sitter is what neovim and zed uses

shreyassanthu Huh

shreyassanthu idk how fast this will be but very very cool

shreyassanthu by fast I mean moving between files

shreyassanthu not the rendering speed

shreyassanthu Yeah shortcuts would be cool

shreyassanthu Woooow

ryanwinchesterTV what is this

shreyassanthu So you're basically rebuilding Emacs lol 🤣

ryanwinchesterTV webmacs?

shreyassanthu @ryanwinchestertv yeahol but with jupyter Vibes

shreyassanthu give the textareas 100% width

shreyassanthu It'll look nice

ryanwinchesterTV illiterate programming

shreyassanthu Wait Odin can do switch on a string??

shreyassanthu line numbers is probably a good idea in this thing

shreyassanthu like lines mapping to the final output file

shreyassanthu like reverse mapping form the output to the block

shreyassanthu yes

shreyassanthu I have soo many ideas for what this should be lol 🤣

shreyassanthu and probably even a terminal

shreyassanthu and a quick fix list

shreyassanthu a quick fix list is like a thing that takes the output of a compiler and let's you jump to all the error locations

shreyassanthu huh so it auto runs it ?

shreyassanthu like a file watcher

shreyassanthu niceeee

Vampire Frog nyukka still live

Vampire Frog who are you talking to?

shreyassanthu ngl this is just vscode with the jupyter notebooks extension 😅

Vampire Frog wow rude

Vampire Frog use my chat widget

shreyassanthu a little less bloated yes

shreyassanthu Maybe wrap this ina web view library to run it as a desktop app

Vampire Frog more like BS code amirite

rvIceBreaker ... uh

rvIceBreaker what are we talking about?

Vampire Frog you wanna take a spooky dooky?

shreyassanthu let's gooooo

Vampire Frog my pee is blue

rvIceBreaker well that's easily like a 10:1 code to poo ratio for me

rvIceBreaker you can call me a 10x developer

Vampire Frog it's from these pills I'm taking to flush the system, they have methylene blue or whatever

Vampire Frog methyl blue

shreyassanthu I might actually rebuild this from scratch in go

Vampire Frog yeah every winter I get a bladder cold and every summer I get a bladder infection

shreyassanthu I like this idea

shreyassanthu banned from twitch

shreyassanthu No no not for you

shreyassanthu it's just for me to see where can I take it

Vampire Frog go more like blow

shreyassanthu wtf is happening there on yt 😂😂

shreyassanthu I will never say literate programming

shreyassanthu literate programming sounds a bit egoistic elitist shit

shreyassanthu yeah 😅

rvIceBreaker all other programming is illiterate 🫠

shreyassanthu maybe even integrate copilot into this 😅

Vampire Frog AI more like Gay I

ChiefMultiHat Need a language with alternate syntax that makes typos and other combinations to work

rvIceBreaker I know i'm going to get shit on for this but i still prefer documentation in comments in code, seems like an easier idea than all this bullshittery

Vampire Frog use Joiner for restreaming

shreyassanthu @rvicebreaker lol 🤣

shreyassanthu @rvicebreaker if you get shitted on for expressing your opinion you should not give a shift about those people

rvIceBreaker for tutorials and the like, web documentation is fine. but most of the time i need to reference detailed documentation it leads me to reading the code anyway so just... put it there.

shreyassanthu this is what c macros are and it was horrible btw 😂

Vampire Frog so you're finding ways of overthinking

rvIceBreaker I think you can do that concisely and within the context of what you're documenting, but not every function call needs to describe the state of the universe at that function call

Vampire Frog I got github action to compile stuff for me today, it was pretty cool

rvIceBreaker this isn't to shit on you, just you know... talking.

rvIceBreaker LUL not how i intend to frame this conversation

shreyassanthu Gottem

Vampire Frog gotta get goin see ya

rvIceBreaker I'm glad you have a system that works for you

ninja_tron Hey Spiro

shreyassanthu Are y'all on bluesky??

rvIceBreaker LUL hahah exactly

shreyassanthu Heyyyy @ninja_tron

rvIceBreaker just wait until i'm a paying customer we're gonna have problems

ninja_tron I am on Bluesky and it is has been super nice. Deactivating my X this week probably.

rvIceBreaker LUL hahaha

ninja_tron Hey @shreyassanthu

shreyassanthu bluesky is open source and it's a lot more fun than x now genuinely

rvIceBreaker See kids? this is how you strong-arm your way into a sponsorship

rvIceBreaker just threaten them with feedback

ninja_tron Better conversations and I work with a lot of scientists. More researchers on bluesky

rvIceBreaker where is the fun in high-brow twitter?

ninja_tron Fair enough, I get it

rvIceBreaker this is the internet, we're not here to have a scientific dissertation

shreyassanthu People on x are motivated by the impressions and likes but bsky people just have conversations for the sake of having conversations

shreyassanthu I am using bothe and I can see the difference

ninja_tron Agreed @shreyassanthu

shreyassanthu nah people are just gonna find easy to beat whatever the fk Elon comes up with

shreyassanthu *find a way

shreyassanthu there's no such thing as a good faith argument on x

ninja_tron Bluesky handles it really well, lots of good discussion. Also, atproto is cool as hell

shreyassanthu lol 🤣 exceptions prove the rule

shreyassanthu the few people are now moving to bsky

rvIceBreaker I don't use any social media so i literally have no dogs in this race, couldn't care less lol

rvIceBreaker that's what you get for being a shitfluencer

rvIceBreaker Kappa

shreyassanthu @rvicebreaker yeah! But I genuinely men wonderful people because of social media and specifically x

shreyassanthu *met

rvIceBreaker LUL jeeves

shreyassanthu Jeeves deez nuts

ninja_tron So what are we building? Whats the game?

rvIceBreaker B O A T C H E S S

rvIceBreaker you got nerd sniped by one guy

rvIceBreaker two guys

ninja_tron Ah gotcha. Components bad lol

rvIceBreaker chased the dragon like a F O O L

shreyassanthu I said multiple times you don't need an ecs

shreyassanthu you didn't listen to me

rvIceBreaker pretty sure I said the same thing but listen to shreyass

rvIceBreaker my words are worthless so no offense taken

ninja_tron How is the WASM story for Odin?

rvIceBreaker I'm not sure i've ever unironically said 'bees knees' about anything LUL

ninja_tron Does Odin use LLVM too?

shreyassanthu It would be soo cool if we had twitch chat history

rvIceBreaker no, you guys don't need to see my warcrimes

shreyassanthu Then you could pull up everything I said and we could talk about all that

shreyassanthu huh maybe there's a business opportunity here

rvIceBreaker well its not about you streamer

shreyassanthu That I am

shreyassanthu 100% agreed

rvIceBreaker we're jerks with heart

rvIceBreaker we're rude because we care

rvIceBreaker everything

shreyassanthu okay I gotta go take care of

shreyassanthu *byeeee

shreyassanthu bye chat

shreyassanthu see ya

rvIceBreaker fuck future me, dick head deserves it

rvIceBreaker Clap you've completed the next beginner project after 'what is your name, i'm guessing a number between 0 and 10'

rvIceBreaker What Is Programming Chapter 2 - Arrays and Indices

rvIceBreaker Kappa

rvIceBreaker that's chapter one

rvIceBreaker i thought we were passed that but we can revisit it

rvIceBreaker damn NotLikeThis

PureAmbrosia >(

LaughinPanda What chapter is programming with 200+ if, then, else statements?

rvIceBreaker gigachad programming is just a series of increasingly complex off-by-one errors that appear to function correctly

rvIceBreaker @LaughinPanda we're not at logic branching yet, stop jumping ahead

rvIceBreaker friggin try hard over here reading a chapter ahead

LaughinPanda That's where I'm at, tragically stuck there for the moment.

rvIceBreaker what's next, you're gonna start asking about loops?

LaughinPanda Asking to not have to sit through 7 commercials. That's next.

rvIceBreaker Get advertised to, nerd

LaughinPanda Got me, right in the feels.

rvIceBreaker FOR THE LOW PRICE OF $5 A MONTH

rvIceBreaker YOU TOO CAN HAVE EMOTES

rvIceBreaker AND NO ADS

rvIceBreaker AND SUPPORT DAD WITH HIS CIGARETTE MONEY

PureAmbrosia NotLikeThis

rvIceBreaker MOM'S REALLY GETTING ON HIS CASE LATELY AND HE NEEDS IT

LaughinPanda But, no maple syrup. Whats that about?

rvIceBreaker It'd be nice if you could stream and turn all that shit off, i'd stream if I could completely opt out of payments

rvIceBreaker monkaS he's behind you right now

NakorBlue he is going to kill you and replace you just like avril lavine now.

rvIceBreaker isn't that the same thing as lizard people? which we covered earlier

rvIceBreaker she was assimilated by windago lizard people society

rvIceBreaker skinwalkers

rvIceBreaker Closeted? LUL